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This should be changed to:
I'd suggest:
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If using plain [[assembling machine 3]] then packs will be produced at 75 items per minute. However, any of the three assemblers may be used and science production will be kept in sync.
If using plain [[assembling machine 3]] then packs will be produced at 75 items per minute. However, any of the three assemblers may be used and science production will be kept in sync.
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The clarification is true because multiplying both sides of a ratio by the same number does not change the ratio. In this case, faster or slower crafting speeds don't affect how many assemblers are needed.
The clarification is true because multiplying both sides of a ratio by the same number does not change the ratio. In this case, faster or slower crafting speeds don't affect how many assemblers are needed.
--[[User:Jonathanberger|Jonathanberger]] ([[User talk:Jonathanberger|talk]]) 17:45, 4 Oct 2022 (UTC)
--[[User:Jonathanberger|Jonathanberger]] ([[User talk:Jonathanberger|talk]]) 17:45, 4 Oct 2022 (UTC)
== Add more varied cost tables ==
This would be useful for more distributed bases.
{| class="wikitable"
! Type !!  Recipe !! Total raw
|-
| {{imagelink|Automation science pack}} || {{icon|Time|5}} + {{icon|copper plate|1}} + {{icon|iron gear wheel|1}} &rarr; {{icon|Automation science pack|1}} || {{icon|Time|5.5}} {{icon|iron plate|2}} {{icon|copper plate|1}}
|-
| {{imagelink|Logistic science pack}} || {{icon|Time|6}} + {{icon|Transport belt|1}} + {{icon|Inserter|1}} &rarr; {{icon|Logistic science pack|1}} || {{icon|Time|8.75}} {{icon|iron plate|4.5}} {{icon|Electronic circuit|1}}
|-
| {{imagelink|Military science pack}} || {{icon|Time|10}} + {{icon|Piercing rounds magazine|1}} + {{icon|Grenade|1}} + {{Icon|Wall|2}} &rarr; {{icon|Military science pack|2}} || {{icon|Time|23}} {{icon|Iron plate|9}} {{icon|Copper plate|5}} {{icon|Steel plate|1}} {{icon|Coal|10}} {{icon|Stone brick|10}}
|-
| {{imagelink|Chemical science pack}} || {{icon|Time|24}} + {{icon|Sulfur|1}} + {{icon|Advanced circuit|3}} + {{icon|Engine unit|2}} &rarr; {{icon|Chemical science pack|2}} || {{icon|Time|52.5}} {{icon|Iron plate|8}} {{icon|Sulfur|1}} {{icon|Steel plate|2}} {{icon|Advanced circuit|3}}
|-
| {{imagelink|Production science pack}} || {{icon|Time|21}} + {{icon|Rail|30}} + {{icon|Electric furnace|1}} + {{icon|Productivity module|1}} &rarr; {{icon|Production science pack|3}} || {{icon|Time|153.5}} {{icon|Iron plate|7.5}} {{icon|Electronic circuit|5}} {{icon|Steel plate|25}} {{icon|Advanced circuit|10}} {{icon|Stone|15}} {{icon|Stone brick|10}}
|-
| {{imagelink|Utility science pack}} || {{icon|Time|21}} + {{icon|Processing unit|2}} + {{icon|Flying robot frame|1}} + {{icon|Low density structure|3}} &rarr; {{icon|Utility science pack|3}} ||  {{icon|Time|104.75}} {{icon|Copper plate|60}} {{icon|Electronic circuit|3}} {{icon|Steel plate|7}} {{icon|Plastic bar|15}} {{icon|Battery|2}} {{icon|Processing unit|2}} {{icon|Electric engine unit|1}}
|-
| {{imagelink|Space science pack}} || {{icon|Space science pack|1000}} per launched {{icon|Satellite}} || {{icon|Time|300}} {{icon|Iron plate|0.3}} {{icon|Copper plate|22.5}} {{icon|Steel plate|2.7}} {{icon|Plastic bar|5.5}} {{icon|Electronic circuit|6.525}} {{icon|Advanced circuit|5}} {{icon|Processing unit|1.1}} {{icon|Rocket fuel|1.05}} {{icon|Battery|0.5}}
|}
Per science pack:
{| class="wikitable"
! Type !! Total raw
|-
| {{imagelink|Automation science pack}} || {{icon|iron plate|2}} {{icon|copper plate|1}}
|-
| {{imagelink|Logistic science pack}} || {{icon|iron plate|4.5}} {{icon|Electronic circuit|1}}
|-
| {{imagelink|Military science pack}} || {{icon|Iron plate|4.5}} {{icon|Copper plate|2.5}} {{icon|Steel plate|0.5}} {{icon|Coal|5}} {{icon|Stone brick|5}}
|-
| {{imagelink|Chemical science pack}} || {{icon|Iron plate|4}} {{icon|Sulfur|0.5}} {{icon|Steel plate|1}} {{icon|Advanced circuit|1.5}}
|-
| {{imagelink|Production science pack}} || {{icon|Iron plate|2.5}} {{icon|Electronic circuit|~1.67}} {{icon|Steel plate|~8.33}} {{icon|Advanced circuit|~3.33}} {{icon|Stone|5}} {{icon|Stone brick|~3.33}}
|-
| {{imagelink|Utility science pack}} || {{icon|Copper plate|20}} {{icon|Electronic circuit|1}} {{icon|Steel plate|~2.33}} {{icon|Plastic bar|5}} {{icon|Battery|~0.67}} {{icon|Processing unit|0.67~}} {{icon|Electric engine unit|~0.33}}
|-
| {{imagelink|Space science pack}} || {{icon|Iron plate|0.3}} {{icon|Copper plate|22.5}} {{icon|Steel plate|2.7}} {{icon|Plastic bar|5.5}} {{icon|Electronic circuit|6.525}} {{icon|Advanced circuit|5}} {{icon|Processing unit|1.1}} {{icon|Rocket fuel|1.05}} {{icon|Battery|0.5}}
|}
In total:
{| class="wikitable"
! Total raw
|-
| {{icon|Iron plate|17.8}} {{icon|Copper plate|46}} {{icon|Steel plate|~14.867}} {{icon|Plastic bar|10.5}} {{icon|Electronic circuit|~10.2}} {{icon|Advanced circuit|~9.83}} {{icon|Processing unit|~1.767}} {{icon|Coal|5}} {{icon|Stone|5}} {{icon|Stone brick|~8.33}} {{icon|Rocket fuel|1.05}} {{icon|Battery|~1.167}} {{icon|Sulfur|0.5}} {{icon|Electric engine unit|~0.33}}
|}

Latest revision as of 21:27, 12 December 2022

Production 3 ratio

Quoting the page:

For example, Physical projectile damage 3 requires one automation science pack and one logistic science pack and one military science pack to begin researching, but it needs this to be input into labs a total of 100 times, raising the research cost to 100 automation science packs, 100 logistic science packs and 100 military science packs.

Why 100 times and not 300? Is this an error or should it be fixed? --M.C.S. (talk) 21:15, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

It was indeed an error, thank you for finding it and pointing it out. I have fixed it now. -- Bilka (talk) - Admin 10:44, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Improve clarity of science pack assembly ratio

I'd like to make a sentence at the bottom of the page more clear:

The list above assumes that the science packs are being produced from assembling machine 3, being produced at 75 items per minute without any beacons/modules.

I'd suggest:

If using plain assembling machine 3 then packs will be produced at 75 items per minute. However, any of the three assemblers may be used and science production will be kept in sync.

The clarification is true because multiplying both sides of a ratio by the same number does not change the ratio. In this case, faster or slower crafting speeds don't affect how many assemblers are needed. --Jonathanberger (talk) 17:45, 4 Oct 2022 (UTC)

Add more varied cost tables

This would be useful for more distributed bases.

Type Recipe Total raw
Automation science pack.png
Automation science pack
Time.png
5
+
Copper plate.png
1
+
Iron gear wheel.png
1
→
Automation science pack.png
1
Time.png
5.5
Iron plate.png
2
Copper plate.png
1
Logistic science pack.png
Logistic science pack
Time.png
6
+
Transport belt.png
1
+
Inserter.png
1
→
Logistic science pack.png
1
Time.png
8.75
Iron plate.png
4.5
Electronic circuit.png
1
Military science pack.png
Military science pack
Time.png
10
+
Piercing rounds magazine.png
1
+
Grenade.png
1
+
Wall.png
2
→
Military science pack.png
2
Time.png
23
Iron plate.png
9
Copper plate.png
5
Steel plate.png
1
Coal.png
10
Stone brick.png
10
Chemical science pack.png
Chemical science pack
Time.png
24
+
Sulfur.png
1
+
Advanced circuit.png
3
+
Engine unit.png
2
→
Chemical science pack.png
2
Time.png
52.5
Iron plate.png
8
Sulfur.png
1
Steel plate.png
2
Advanced circuit.png
3
Production science pack.png
Production science pack
Time.png
21
+
Straight rail.png
30
+
Electric furnace.png
1
+
Productivity module.png
1
→
Production science pack.png
3
Time.png
153.5
Iron plate.png
7.5
Electronic circuit.png
5
Steel plate.png
25
Advanced circuit.png
10
Stone.png
15
Stone brick.png
10
Utility science pack.png
Utility science pack
Time.png
21
+
Processing unit.png
2
+
Flying robot frame.png
1
+
Low density structure.png
3
→
Utility science pack.png
3
Time.png
104.75
Copper plate.png
60
Electronic circuit.png
3
Steel plate.png
7
Plastic bar.png
15
Battery.png
2
Processing unit.png
2
Electric engine unit.png
1
Space science pack.png
Space science pack
Space science pack.png
1000
per launched
Satellite.png
Time.png
300
Iron plate.png
0.3
Copper plate.png
22.5
Steel plate.png
2.7
Plastic bar.png
5.5
Electronic circuit.png
6.525
Advanced circuit.png
5
Processing unit.png
1.1
Rocket fuel.png
1.05
Battery.png
0.5

Per science pack:

Type Total raw
Automation science pack.png
Automation science pack
Iron plate.png
2
Copper plate.png
1
Logistic science pack.png
Logistic science pack
Iron plate.png
4.5
Electronic circuit.png
1
Military science pack.png
Military science pack
Iron plate.png
4.5
Copper plate.png
2.5
Steel plate.png
0.5
Coal.png
5
Stone brick.png
5
Chemical science pack.png
Chemical science pack
Iron plate.png
4
Sulfur.png
0.5
Steel plate.png
1
Advanced circuit.png
1.5
Production science pack.png
Production science pack
Iron plate.png
2.5
Electronic circuit.png
~1.67
Steel plate.png
~8.33
Advanced circuit.png
~3.33
Stone.png
5
Stone brick.png
~3.33
Utility science pack.png
Utility science pack
Copper plate.png
20
Electronic circuit.png
1
Steel plate.png
~2.33
Plastic bar.png
5
Battery.png
~0.67
Processing unit.png
0.67~
Electric engine unit.png
~0.33
Space science pack.png
Space science pack
Iron plate.png
0.3
Copper plate.png
22.5
Steel plate.png
2.7
Plastic bar.png
5.5
Electronic circuit.png
6.525
Advanced circuit.png
5
Processing unit.png
1.1
Rocket fuel.png
1.05
Battery.png
0.5

In total:

Total raw
Iron plate.png
17.8
Copper plate.png
46
Steel plate.png
~14.867
Plastic bar.png
10.5
Electronic circuit.png
~10.2
Advanced circuit.png
~9.83
Processing unit.png
~1.767
Coal.png
5
Stone.png
5
Stone brick.png
~8.33
Rocket fuel.png
1.05
Battery.png
~1.167
Sulfur.png
0.5
Electric engine unit.png
~0.33
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